EL condenado fue disparado por 5 tiradores a 20 pies con calibre 30-30.
Le tomo 2.5 minutos a morir.
Esto nos muestra que el cuerpo humano es mucho mas resistente que pensamos.....
Imaginense sobreviviendo 2.5 minutos con 5 rifles que le disparan a 20 pies.....lo que haría 2-3 balas de .380 ACP a alguien que te quiera agredir, que esta drogado o que esta en plena adrenalina....
Que raro, por lo general en las ejecuciones todos te apuntan al bobo.
No sabia que todavia habian fusilamientos ??? que mala onda.
Si hace muy poco en Utah y a la demanda del contenando fue ejecutado de esta manera
Aqui el link del noticiero ABC sobre esto: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/inmate-requests-execution-firing-squad-10465809
Que loco o que valiente ese causa, no se cual de las dos!!
Pedir que lo fusilen en vez de la inyección? Increible
Tambien que habia que verle la cara de locaso que tenia...
:-X
fue pedido por su gusto. Utah tenia el opcion de 'firing squad'desde que volvieron iniciar al pena de muerte por los que ya estaban esperando la pena de muerte.
Cita de: HiPower P35 en 19 de Junio de 2010, 04:59:12 PM
EL condenado fue disparado por 5 tiradores a 20 pies con calibre 30-30.
Le tomo 2.5 minutos a morir.
Esto nos muestra que el cuerpo humano es mucho mas resistente que pensamos.....
Imaginense sobreviviendo 2.5 minutos con 5 rifles que le disparan a 20 pies.....lo que haría 2-3 balas de .380 ACP a alguien que te quiera agredir, que esta drogado o que esta en plena adrenalina....
donde has visto estas noticias? que hasta ahora, solo veo que 'dispararon y se acabo la vida de Gardner' si hay noticias de esto, por favor, un link... no me digas que 4 balas de 30.30 en el pecho no matan....
Death by firing squad
It is estimated that 340 men have been executed in the U.S. by firing squad since 1600. Many of these were military executions carried out in the civil war and there have been 143 civilian shooting executions. Oklahoma carried out 24 between 1880 and 1899 and it was used for 23 executions in California between 1824 and 1852. Oklahoma retains shooting as an option should its lethal injection protocol be declared unconstitutional.
In the 20th century only one state other than Utah has actually used shooting. Nevada carried out a single execution using an "execution machine" on May 14, 1913 when Andrija Mircovich elected this form of death for murder. This machine consisted of a steel frame with three rifles mounted on it, one of which was loaded with a blank round. The rifles were equipped with Maxim silencers and were fired by a coiled spring mechanism set off by cutting three strings. The machine was never was used again and was sent for scrap during World War 1. The US Army used shooting instead of its normal method of hanging from time to time and had a written protocol for "death by musketry" as it put it. Two soldiers were shot at Shepton Mallet prison in Somerset England during World War 2. Alex Miranda was shot by an eight man firing squad on May 30, 1944 and Benjamin Pyegate on November 28, 1944, both for murder.
Utah.
Under Utah law since 1852, the condemned man had the choice of shooting by firing squad (which complies with the Mormon doctrine of Blood Atonement) or hanging, most prisoners choosing shooting. Utah abolished hanging as an option and replaced it with lethal injection. Prisoners condemned before May 3, 2004 and who elected shooting may still be put to death in this manner. It is thought that there are four men who could thus, potentially be shot. Death sentences since then specify lethal injection as the sole method. Between 1852 and 2010 there have been 50 legal executions in the state of Utah. Of these, 40 have been by firing squad, six by hanging, and four by lethal injection.
One of Utah's executions was unusual for two reasons. Firstly it was consensual and secondly the prisoner, 39 year old John Deering agreed to have his execution monitored by an electrocardiograph. He was shot on October 31 1938. This showed an increase in heart rate from 72 to 180 beats per minute during the preparation stage of the execution and that the heart continued to beat for almost 16 seconds after the bullets hit him. According to the Chicago Tribune newspaper he was certified dead 2 ½ minutes later.
Wallace Wilkerson was executed at for murder on May 16, 1879 and was not strapped to the chair and also refused the blindfold. The sheriff put a, 3-inch white target over the Wilkerson's heart and then withdrew and gave the signal the old penitentiary in Sugar House to the firing squad who were in a shed 20 feet away. Just as they fired Wilkerson straightened up in the chair and the bullets missed his heart, one of them shattering his arm. He fell forward and cried out "Oh, my God! My God! They have missed". It took 27 minutes before Wilkerson could be pronounced dead, as there was no provision for a coup de grace in Utah law.
Modern firing squad executions.
On Monday January 17, 1977, Gary Mark Gilmore (see photo) became the first person to be executed in the U.S. for nearly 10 years after putting up a strenuous campaign to be allowed to die. He had been convicted of the murders by shooting of a motel clerk, Bennie Bushnell, and of a gas station attendant, Max Jensen. At the time of the killings, Gilmore was on parole from a 12-year sentence for armed robbery. 36 year old Gilmore chose shooting. He was executed at 9:07 a.m. CST by five volunteers in the old canning factory in the grounds of the Utah state prison at Point of the Mountain near Salt Lake City using Winchester Model 94 lever action repeating rifles loaded with Winchester Silver Tip 150-grain .30-30 caliber cartridges. Only five of the rifles were loaded with live ammunition, the sixth contained a blank round so that the firing squad would, at least in theory, not know who had fired the fatal shots. He was tied to an old chair (see photo) and had a white target pinned over his heart and a black hood covering his face (this is on the back of the screen behind the chair in the photo). After the death warrant had been read to him he was asked if there was anything he wanted to say and uttered the famous line "Lets do it." The firing squad were positioned behind a screen some 30 feet from Gilmore. Dr. Serge M. Moore, Utah's Chief Medical Examiner told reporters that all four bullets had hit Gillmore's heart within two inches of each other and that he had taken two minutes to die. Reporters present at the execution noted movement in his body for 15 – 20 seconds after the shots were fired and that he continued breathing during this time. After execution an autopsy was carried out and in accordance with Gillmore's wishes, his corneas, pituitary gland, liver and kidneys were donated for medical research.
His execution, which was headline news worldwide, restarted capital punishment in the USA and was graphically described in Norman Mailer's book and subsequent film "The Executioner's Song."
Nineteen years later John Taylor (see photo) became the second person to suffer the same fate.
Taylor, 36, was convicted of the 1988 rape and strangulation of 11 year-old Charla King and was duly executed on January 26, 1996 at 12:03 a.m. Mountain Time.
One of the 9 media witnesses, Paul Murphy of KTVX-TV Salt Lake, described the scene saying "we saw this very large man strapped to a chair. His eyes were darting back and forth."
He was strapped to the dark blue painted execution chair (see photo) by his hands and feet and lifted his chin for Warden Hank Galetka to secure a strap around his neck and place the black hood over his head.
At 12:03 a.m., on the count of 3, the 5 riflemen standing 23 feet away fired the standard Winchester Model 94 rifles. Four of these were loaded with a single Winchester Silver Tip 150-grain .30-.30 bullet, while the fifth contained a blank round. The relatively light bullets which expand well at short distances, were fired at a white cloth target pinned over Taylor's heart. Blood rapidly darkened the chest area of his navy blue clothing, and four minutes later, a doctor pronounced him dead. Very little blood spilled into the pan under the chair's mesh seat.
According to a witness, as the volley hit him "Taylor's hands squeezed up, went down, and came up and squeezed again. His chest was covered with blood."
The prison doctor came in, cut holes in the hood and examined Taylor's pupils to verify he was dead, pronouncing him dead at 12:07, according to Ray Wahl, director of field operations at the Utah State Prison. "It went like clockwork, just like we rehearsed," prison warden Hank Galetka said. "There was no hesitation at all, Taylor went to his death with steely determination even though only hours before he had to be given medication because his stomach was doing flip-flops."
Post 1988, all Utah executions take place at the Utah State Prison in Draper, in a purpose built execution chamber. This is a white painted room 24 feet long and 20 feet wide, built in 1998. On each side of the chamber there are three bulletproof glass enclosed witness rooms. One is for the state's witnesses. On the other side of the execution area are two witness rooms: one room for witnesses selected by the offender; one room for media witnesses. At one end of the chamber is a seat equipped with straps, while at the other end the wall has two gun ports. The steel and mesh execution chair (see photo) is painted a dark blue and has a pan beneath the seat to catch the inmate's blood and is surrounded by sand bags on each side to prevent ricochets. This facility had only been used once previously, for the lethal injection of Joseph Mitchell Parsons in 1999.
Friday June 18th 2010 saw Utah's 3rd firing squad execution when 49 year old Ronnie Lee Gardner (see photo) was executed at the State Prison in Draper just after midnight. Gardner was sentenced to death in 1985 for the murder of attorney Michael Burdell while trying to escape from a Salt Lake City courthouse in April 1985, where he was on trial for the murder by shooting of barman Melvyn John Otterstrom during a 1984 robbery. Gardner also shot and wounded court bailiff George "Nick" Kirk who died 11 years later as a result, according to his family. A female accomplice had smuggled the gun into court and slipped it to Gardner prior to the escape attempt.
Just after midnight Gardner, wearing just a dark blue jump suit, was led the 90 feet from the observation cell to the death chamber. Here Gardner was strapped into the execution chair and put to death in accordance with Utah's normal protocol as described below. Asked if he had any last words he told the warden "no, I do not. No." The firing squad leader counted down from 5 and the squad fired on the word two. Reporters who witnessed the execution noted that Gardner's arm twitched momentarily after the volley had been fired at 12.15. He was pronounced dead at 12:17, two minutes later. 4 bullet holes were visible in the wood panel behind the execution chair after the body was removed. Gardner was cooperative throughout the procedure.
Utah's protocol for firing squad execution.
The firing squad is composed of six corrections officers, comprising one squad leader and five shooters.
The inmate is brought from the observation cell at 12.05am into the execution chamber where Velcro restraints are applied to the arms, legs and chest. A head restraint is applied loosely around the prisoner's neck to hold his neck and head in an upright position. The inmate wears a dark blue boiler suit to which a white cloth circle attached by Velcro to the area over the heart. Behind the execution chair are sandbags to absorb the volley and prevent ricochets. Dark sheets are draped over the sandbags.
Approximately 20 feet in front of the inmate is a partition. This has firing ports for each member of the execution team (see photo). There is a shelf like platform gun rest inside the partition, below the firing ports, for the shooters to steady their rifles.
When the inmate has been restrained, he is asked by the warden if he has any last statement to make. When he has finished, a black hood is placed over his head and the warden leaves the room.
The firing squad members take aim at the white cloth circle on the prisoner's chest. On the command being given, they shoot simultaneously. A physician from the Utah Department of Corrections examines the inmate after the volley has been fired to determine death.
The estimated average length of time that elapses from the time that the prisoner is restrained to the time that death is determined is 8 to 10 minutes.
Individuals authorized to attend an execution by firing squad include witnesses selected by the offender, the victim's family, government witnesses, and administrative staff (as determined by the executive director of the prison).
es la primera 'noticia' que yo visto que dice que no murio al instante. bueno, no se noticiero fue, pero, recuerda que no todas las noticias son tal como te dicen. cambie de canal y veras otra version... no es por decir que esta mal este informacion, sino, que no es facil creer en lo que dicen ni los noticieros liberales, ni los conservativos. HiPower, si tienes un link, me gustaria ver de donde viene las noticias. ademas, recuerda que el queria morir asi....
deepwater
Cita de: HiPower P35 en 19 de Junio de 2010, 06:22:55 PM
Wallace Wilkerson was executed at for murder on May 16, 1879 and was not strapped to the chair and also refused the blindfold. The sheriff put a, 3-inch white target over the Wilkerson's heart and then withdrew and gave the signal the old penitentiary in Sugar House to the firing squad who were in a shed 20 feet away. Just as they fired Wilkerson straightened up in the chair and the bullets missed his heart, one of them shattering his arm. He fell forward and cried out "Oh, my God! My God! They have missed". It took 27 minutes before Wilkerson could be pronounced dead, as there was no provision for a coup de grace in Utah law.
Que maleados, lo que entendi aca es que al pata no lo amarraron bien y se movió justo cuando le dispararon desde una caseta a 20 pies, las balas no le cayeron en el bobo y una le destrozó el brazo.
Tardó 27 minutos en morir por que en la ley de Utah no estaba previsto el tiro de gracia!! Que pavos!
Pobre tipo
Estoy seguro que despues de la 5 balas esta incapacitado, pero no muerto. Toman viarios minutos para que alguien se desangre a menos que sean golpes a la cabeza
Lo que poco se de las ejecuciones es que no todos tienen balas letales algunos tienen de salva, esto es para "la tranquilidad" de conciencia de los miembros del peloton ya que no saben a ciencia cierta quienes pegaron de "verdad" y si a esto le sumamos la pericia de los tiradores y la templanza de caracter de ejecutar a un ser humano que influyen en la precision abria que ver donde pegaron, claro ellos apuntaron al bobo pero donde cayeron los impactos?... fuera de todo este folklore del si es que... lo unico cierto que lo humano seria el tiro de gracia para equiparar un poco la justicia humana ya que de que se lo tenia merecido si se lo merecia.
Cita de: Mandragora en 22 de Junio de 2010, 11:26:05 AM
Lo que poco se de las ejecuciones es que no todos tienen balas letales algunos tienen de salva, esto es para "la tranquilidad" de conciencia de los miembros del peloton ya que no saben a ciencia cierta quienes pegaron de "verdad" y si a esto le sumamos la pericia de los tiradores y la templanza de caracter de ejecutar a un ser humano que influyen en la precision abria que ver donde pegaron, claro ellos apuntaron al bobo pero donde cayeron los impactos?... fuera de todo este folklore del si es que... lo unico cierto que lo humano seria el tiro de gracia para equiparar un poco la justicia humana ya que de que se lo tenia merecido si se lo merecia.
son cinco rifles, 4 con balas y una con 'blanco' por lo que Ud. dice, si alguno de ellos luego se siente mal por el hecho, se puede convencer que el no ha sido. (claro, todos sabemos que un disparo sin bala se nota.)
como hasta ahora, solo el post de High power tiene referencias al tiempo de morir. se me hace que su noticiero es uno de estos liberales que no cuenta la historia con todo la verdad. en los Estado Unidos hay muchos de estos y mi opinion es que son propagandistas.
deepwater
Esta en varios diarios.
No es especulación.
El medico lo declaro muerto 2 minutos después del disparo.
Todo esto esta creado polémica, por como sufren los condenado.
Hay otros 4 condenados mas que han escogido este metodo para morirse en Utah despues de todo el escandalo que hizo este noticiero en los EU
Siguiendo la mentalidad de los westerns LIVE BY THE GUN, DIE BY THE GUN
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=11218887
Warden Steve Turley asked Gardner if he had any final comments. Gardner replied, "I do not. No."
A hood was then placed over his head, and the warden left the room. Witnesses say Gardner seemed calm but clenched his fists as if he were bracing for what was to come.
The marksmen opened fire about 30 seconds after Turley left. A medical examiner pronounced Gardner dead less than two minutes later.
el medico lo declara muerto despues de ver varios cosas, ademas, tiene que esperar que
1. las armas estan segurados y fuera de la linea.
2. el oficial encargado le da permiso entrar al area.
cuanto tiempo ha pasado con esto?
luego tiene que revisar el cuerpo y fijar que no hay señales de vida.
puede ser que todo esto tarda lo suficiente para que su 'declaracion' de muerte sea un poco mas tarde.
Citar
1. Identify the patient
2. Note the general appearance of the body
3. Ascertain that the patient does not rouse to verbal or tactile stimuli.
Avoid overtly painful stimuli especially if family members are present.
4. Listen for the absence of carotid pulse.
5. Look and listen for the absence of spontaneous respirations.
6. Record the position of the pupils and the absence of pupillary light reflex.
7. Note the time your assessment was completed.
This will be recorded as the official time of death.
no estoy discutiendo por causar problemas, sino que me parece que el noticiero esta provocando un escandalo con el manipulacion de palabras. no te cuenta todo.
deepwater
Tienes razón,
no se exactamente cuando tiempo tomo realmente para esta biológicamente muerto. Y al noticiero americano les gusta crear escandalo y polemica
Todo esto era para decir que un par de .380 acp o de 9Pb en FMJ no son suficientes para parar a un hombre a menos que una de estas afecte el sistema nervioso, incapacitadonlo de inmediato.
SAludos
Cita de: deepwater en 23 de Junio de 2010, 12:42:35 PM
el medico lo declara muerto despues de ver varios cosas, ademas, tiene que esperar que
1. las armas estan segurados y fuera de la linea.
2. el oficial encargado le da permiso entrar al area.
cuanto tiempo ha pasado con esto?
luego tiene que revisar el cuerpo y fijar que no hay señales de vida.
puede ser que todo esto tarda lo suficiente para que su 'declaracion' de muerte sea un poco mas tarde.
Citar
1. Identify the patient
2. Note the general appearance of the body
3. Ascertain that the patient does not rouse to verbal or tactile stimuli.
Avoid overtly painful stimuli especially if family members are present.
4. Listen for the absence of carotid pulse.
5. Look and listen for the absence of spontaneous respirations.
6. Record the position of the pupils and the absence of pupillary light reflex.
7. Note the time your assessment was completed.
This will be recorded as the official time of death.
no estoy discutiendo por causar problemas, sino que me parece que el noticiero esta provocando un escandalo con el manipulacion de palabras. no te cuenta todo.
deepwater
Afirmativo Deepwater.
Para que una persona sea declarada clinicamente muerta debe de cumplir ciertos requisitos( arriba mencionados) que no son los que nosotros con nuestros propios sentidos podemos ver o apreciar, por asi decirlo, para nosotros podria estar muerto al instante, y seguro que si, pero para que legalmente sea delarado muerto debe cumplir ciertos requisitos y el medico debe de encargarse de ello por eso la demora en la declaratoria del fallecimiento en este caso...
Yo lei en un foro mexicano asi como este un pata que se bajo un choro que se metio a su jato
El choro estaba haciendo sus cosas en la sala y el pata lo vio desde arriba de las escaleras, de frente nomas le metio dos plomasos cuando llego abajo el choro ya estaba frío. Es relativo creo yo.
para aclarar el tema del fusilamiento,de los 5 tiradores solo uno tiene municion real y en este caso el condenado pidio esta ejecucion porque en el año q cometio el delito todavia estaba vigente.asi q mejor de un balazo a q te esten inyectando cojudeces,saludos a todos.
4 balas de calibre 30-30. normalmente solo necesita una para matar venado. imagina lo que hace al cuerpo humano...
:P
deepwater
Citarpara aclarar el tema del fusilamiento,de los 5 tiradores solo uno tiene municion real y en este caso el condenado pidio esta ejecucion porque en el año q cometio el delito todavia estaba vigente.asi q mejor de un balazo a q te esten inyectando cojudeces,saludos a todos.
Hay que aclarar que es exactamente al reves ;D Solo 1 tiene municion de SALVA, los otros 4 tienen municion real.
Saludos.